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giteau
- Messaggi: 212
- Iscritto il: 19 lug 2006, 8:54
Nonostante le mani in ruck e` piu` veloce e meno interruzzioni? interessante....non vedo l`ora di provare
Il crollo e` pericoloso ma se hai spazio dalla difesa non credo che le maul ti servano cosi` tanto; quindi penso che questa regola l`hanno fatta per ridurre il numero di mauls in una partita e favorire le rucks che rendono il gioco piu` veloce e non lo rallentano come le mauls.
Melbourne Rebels ora sono in testa alla classifica se non sbaglio.
Il crollo e` pericoloso ma se hai spazio dalla difesa non credo che le maul ti servano cosi` tanto; quindi penso che questa regola l`hanno fatta per ridurre il numero di mauls in una partita e favorire le rucks che rendono il gioco piu` veloce e non lo rallentano come le mauls.
Melbourne Rebels ora sono in testa alla classifica se non sbaglio.
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DVD
- Messaggi: 942
- Iscritto il: 9 mag 2006, 14:31
- Località: Melbourne/Battipaglia
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si si contro ogni aspettativa. E poi se pensi che anche se faceva freddo e piovigginava c'erano 4800 spettatori..non male eh!?..qualcuno da più di un anno specula che quando il nuovo stadio al posto dell'olimpic park sarà finito (dove giocheranno calcio, e i due codici di rugby), i brumbies verranno trasferiti a Melb.
Cmq, sembra anche a me strano che con le mani in ruck il gioco si sia velocizzato, però sabato scorso così è stato. Sul crollo della maul d'accordo con te, però a quanto pare (E ti sto riportando una notiola fresca fresca) ai giocatri non piace tantissimo.
Cmq, sembra anche a me strano che con le mani in ruck il gioco si sia velocizzato, però sabato scorso così è stato. Sul crollo della maul d'accordo con te, però a quanto pare (E ti sto riportando una notiola fresca fresca) ai giocatri non piace tantissimo.
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giteau
- Messaggi: 212
- Iscritto il: 19 lug 2006, 8:54
credo di aver capito che stanno portando il gioco ad essere piu` spettacolare e sempre piu` simile al rugby league...
Secondo me qualsiasi regoila porti ad un gioco piu` veloce ben venga e` cmq positivo anche perche` secondo me ora come ora la difesa pensa prima a stare a 5m che a mettere le mani in ruck quindi automaticamente i palloni sono piu` puliti un po` come nel touch...
Secondo me qualsiasi regoila porti ad un gioco piu` veloce ben venga e` cmq positivo anche perche` secondo me ora come ora la difesa pensa prima a stare a 5m che a mettere le mani in ruck quindi automaticamente i palloni sono piu` puliti un po` come nel touch...
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capo82
- Messaggi: 9
- Iscritto il: 29 ott 2005, 0:00
non capisco però la regola delle mani nelle ruck e dei 5 metri. qualcuno me lo può spiegare?
Considerazione mia, non vi sembra che ci sia il rischio che questo sport si possa trasformare in una sorta di macchinine a scontro umane senza il bel vecchio avanzamento di centimetri con pick&drive o i mitici carrettini in maul...?
Considerazione mia, non vi sembra che ci sia il rischio che questo sport si possa trasformare in una sorta di macchinine a scontro umane senza il bel vecchio avanzamento di centimetri con pick&drive o i mitici carrettini in maul...?
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teodoro
- Messaggi: 2305
- Iscritto il: 19 gen 2006, 0:00
- Località: rugby town
io ho visto delle immagini su Total Rugby..capo82 ha scritto:non capisco però la regola delle mani nelle ruck e dei 5 metri. qualcuno me lo può spiegare?
Considerazione mia, non vi sembra che ci sia il rischio che questo sport si possa trasformare in una sorta di macchinine a scontro umane senza il bel vecchio avanzamento di centimetri con pick&drive o i mitici carrettini in maul...?
la distanza di 5 metri è da mantenersi solo sule mischie ordinate,non sui classici raggruppamenti...i pick and drive si vedranno eccome!
della regola delle mani in ruck non ne ho pero sentito parlare
Rugby is life..play it!
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Pakeha_70
- Messaggi: 3223
- Iscritto il: 14 lug 2007, 11:57
Dovrebbe essere che o partecipi alla ruck (e allora puoi mettere le mani) o altrimenti stai 5 metri indietro.capo82 ha scritto:non capisco però la regola delle mani nelle ruck e dei 5 metri. qualcuno me lo può spiegare?
Considerazione mia, non vi sembra che ci sia il rischio che questo sport si possa trasformare in una sorta di macchinine a scontro umane senza il bel vecchio avanzamento di centimetri con pick&drive o i mitici carrettini in maul...?
A questo punto però a me sorge un dubbio... il pick and drive come viene fermato? Solo dagli uomini che difendono nella ruck?
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DVD
- Messaggi: 942
- Iscritto il: 9 mag 2006, 14:31
- Località: Melbourne/Battipaglia
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ok. La prossima settimana cerco di fare dei piccoli video con la mia umile macchina fotografica per ruck, maul, pick and drive etc...
Su alcuni dei vostri punti (e questo vi sorprendera') non esistono ancora ne' pareri ne' critiche, per un semplice motivo, si sono giocate sino ad ora troppe poche partite per capire.
By the way, anche per i calci ci sono delle nuovoe regole, ma nn le ho mica capite !!!! mmmm cerchero' di farmi dare qualcosa di scritto e di postare il tutto. Si, I pick and drive ci sono e anche abbatanza frequenti. le ruck mi sono sembrate un pochino piu' veloci. Poche maul (almeno nella partita che ho visto io).
Cmq, riguardo alla partita, che sia stata veloce e dinamica e molto ma molto divertente,....nn c'e' dubbio!!!
Spero di aggiornarvi domenica prossima!!! I prezzi per vedere queste partite sono molto popolari. Si va' dai 30 (o 20 se hai la concession card, eg..student) Dollari AUS per un distinto coperto ai 10 della cruva ai poco piu' di 40 AUD per la tribuna 'd'onore' con le poltroncine.....
Su alcuni dei vostri punti (e questo vi sorprendera') non esistono ancora ne' pareri ne' critiche, per un semplice motivo, si sono giocate sino ad ora troppe poche partite per capire.
By the way, anche per i calci ci sono delle nuovoe regole, ma nn le ho mica capite !!!! mmmm cerchero' di farmi dare qualcosa di scritto e di postare il tutto. Si, I pick and drive ci sono e anche abbatanza frequenti. le ruck mi sono sembrate un pochino piu' veloci. Poche maul (almeno nella partita che ho visto io).
Cmq, riguardo alla partita, che sia stata veloce e dinamica e molto ma molto divertente,....nn c'e' dubbio!!!
Spero di aggiornarvi domenica prossima!!! I prezzi per vedere queste partite sono molto popolari. Si va' dai 30 (o 20 se hai la concession card, eg..student) Dollari AUS per un distinto coperto ai 10 della cruva ai poco piu' di 40 AUD per la tribuna 'd'onore' con le poltroncine.....
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Pakeha_70
- Messaggi: 3223
- Iscritto il: 14 lug 2007, 11:57
Ecco le regole.
La regola sui calci dai 22 mi sembra molto positiva
Please find below the descriptions of all eight ELV’s to be implemented in the Mazda ARC.
Touch Judges
1. TJ’s can indicate offside at the tackle by raising their flag horizontally in the direction of the offending team. This flag raising will be mirrored by the opposite TJ so as to provide visual assistance to the referee. The referee however is not obliged to act on the offence.
Posts and flags around the field
2. Corner post, and post at corner of touch in goal and dead ball line are moved back 2 metres. This ensures consistency of touch along the entire length of the touch line and touch in goal line.
Inside the 22 metre line
3. When a defending player receives the ball outside the 22 metre line and passes, puts or takes the ball back inside the 22, the following can occur:
a. If the ball is then kicked directly into touch, the lineout is in line with where the ball was kicked.
b. If a tackle, ruck or maul is subsequently formed or an opponent plays the ball and the ball is then kicked directly into touch, the lineout is where the ball crossed the touch line.
Lineout
4. On a quick throw in, the ball can be thrown straight or backwards towards the defenders goal line, but not forward towards the opposition goal line.
5. A player peeling off at the front of the lineout can do so as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands.
6. The receiver in a lineout must stand 2 metres from the lineout.
7. The non throwing hooker does not have to stand between the 5 metre line and the touch line. They must conform to law wherever they stand.
8. There is no maximum number of players in the lineout but there is a minimum of 2.
9. Neither team determines numbers in the lineout.
10. Pre-gripping is allowed.
11. If a lineout throw is not straight, the option is a lineout or FK to non throwing team. (Added 1 Oct).
Breakdown (tackle/post tackle)
12. Players entering the breakdown area must do so through the gate. RIGIDLY APPLIED
13. Immediately the tackle occurs there are offside lines.
14. The offside lines run parallel to the goal lines through the hindmost part of the hindmost player at the tackle.
15. A tackled player must immediately play the ball and may not be prevented from playing the ball by any player who is off their feet. (Added 1 Oct).
16. Any other player playing the ball at the breakdown must be on their feet. (Added 1 Oct)
17. If the ball is unplayable at the breakdown, the side that did not take the ball into contact will receive a FK.
18. If the ball is received directly from a kick and a tackle occurs immediately, and the ball becomes unplayable, the FK is given to the team who received the kick.
19. There are only 3 penalty offences (not including dangerous play) at the breakdown:
a. Offside for not coming through the gate.
b. Offside where defenders are in front of the last man on their side of the breakdown. i.e. the offside line.
c. Players on the ground preventing playing of the ball.
20. Repeated infringements can be dealt with as per current law.
21. A scrum option is available for all FKs.
22. Dangerous play will not be tolerated. Eg. Diving over the breakdown.
23. The half back should not be touched unless he has his hands on the ball.
Maul
24. Defending players can pull down the maul.
25. Players joining the maul must do so through the gate. RIGIDLY APPLIED.
26. If a maul becomes unplayable, the team not in possession at the start of the maul receives a FK.
27. The ‘truck and trailer’ is no longer an offence.
Scrum
28. The offside line for players who are not in the scrum and who are not the teams scrum half, is 5 metres behind the hindmost foot of the scrum.
Sanctions
26. For all offences other than offside, not entering through the gate, and Law 10-Foul Play, the sanction is a FK.
*FK = Free Kick.
La regola sui calci dai 22 mi sembra molto positiva
Please find below the descriptions of all eight ELV’s to be implemented in the Mazda ARC.
Touch Judges
1. TJ’s can indicate offside at the tackle by raising their flag horizontally in the direction of the offending team. This flag raising will be mirrored by the opposite TJ so as to provide visual assistance to the referee. The referee however is not obliged to act on the offence.
Posts and flags around the field
2. Corner post, and post at corner of touch in goal and dead ball line are moved back 2 metres. This ensures consistency of touch along the entire length of the touch line and touch in goal line.
Inside the 22 metre line
3. When a defending player receives the ball outside the 22 metre line and passes, puts or takes the ball back inside the 22, the following can occur:
a. If the ball is then kicked directly into touch, the lineout is in line with where the ball was kicked.
b. If a tackle, ruck or maul is subsequently formed or an opponent plays the ball and the ball is then kicked directly into touch, the lineout is where the ball crossed the touch line.
Lineout
4. On a quick throw in, the ball can be thrown straight or backwards towards the defenders goal line, but not forward towards the opposition goal line.
5. A player peeling off at the front of the lineout can do so as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands.
6. The receiver in a lineout must stand 2 metres from the lineout.
7. The non throwing hooker does not have to stand between the 5 metre line and the touch line. They must conform to law wherever they stand.
8. There is no maximum number of players in the lineout but there is a minimum of 2.
9. Neither team determines numbers in the lineout.
10. Pre-gripping is allowed.
11. If a lineout throw is not straight, the option is a lineout or FK to non throwing team. (Added 1 Oct).
Breakdown (tackle/post tackle)
12. Players entering the breakdown area must do so through the gate. RIGIDLY APPLIED
13. Immediately the tackle occurs there are offside lines.
14. The offside lines run parallel to the goal lines through the hindmost part of the hindmost player at the tackle.
15. A tackled player must immediately play the ball and may not be prevented from playing the ball by any player who is off their feet. (Added 1 Oct).
16. Any other player playing the ball at the breakdown must be on their feet. (Added 1 Oct)
17. If the ball is unplayable at the breakdown, the side that did not take the ball into contact will receive a FK.
18. If the ball is received directly from a kick and a tackle occurs immediately, and the ball becomes unplayable, the FK is given to the team who received the kick.
19. There are only 3 penalty offences (not including dangerous play) at the breakdown:
a. Offside for not coming through the gate.
b. Offside where defenders are in front of the last man on their side of the breakdown. i.e. the offside line.
c. Players on the ground preventing playing of the ball.
20. Repeated infringements can be dealt with as per current law.
21. A scrum option is available for all FKs.
22. Dangerous play will not be tolerated. Eg. Diving over the breakdown.
23. The half back should not be touched unless he has his hands on the ball.
Maul
24. Defending players can pull down the maul.
25. Players joining the maul must do so through the gate. RIGIDLY APPLIED.
26. If a maul becomes unplayable, the team not in possession at the start of the maul receives a FK.
27. The ‘truck and trailer’ is no longer an offence.
Scrum
28. The offside line for players who are not in the scrum and who are not the teams scrum half, is 5 metres behind the hindmost foot of the scrum.
Sanctions
26. For all offences other than offside, not entering through the gate, and Law 10-Foul Play, the sanction is a FK.
*FK = Free Kick.
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DVD
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Pukana
- Messaggi: 1063
- Iscritto il: 7 set 2004, 0:00
- Località: Devonport - North Shore - NZL
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Giteau, quale parte delle regulations in inglese vuoi tradotte e spiegate? se vuoi posso darti una mano a capirle.....giteau ha scritto:scusate l`ignoranza nella lingua pero` alcune regole non le ho capite....in breve qualcuno ci puo` dire le differenze tra le vecchie regole e quelle nuove? grazie mille
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DVD
- Messaggi: 942
- Iscritto il: 9 mag 2006, 14:31
- Località: Melbourne/Battipaglia
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ah ecco che era...ok. Anyway, ma siete sicuri che sul sito della FIR non ci siano!?...A tutti i NZ ma voi il sito della FIR lo riuscite ad aprire!?...ora o io sono di colpo diventato incapace, oppure tutti i computers che sto usando (compreso quelli all'uni) non vogliono di proposito aprire il sito FIR....anche il mio laptop (comprato in Italia) non mi apre il sito...non è che isa una grande perdita...però un pò ci rimango male 
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DVD
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- Iscritto il: 9 mag 2006, 14:31
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Ecco le regole:
Touch Judges
1. TJ’s can indicate offside at the tackle by raising their flag horizontally in the direction of the offending team. This flag raising will be mirrored by the opposite TJ so as to provide visual assistance to the referee. The referee however is not obliged to act on the offence.
Posts and flags around the field
2. Corner post, and post at corner of touch in goal and dead ball line are moved back 2 metres. This ensures consistency of touch along the entire length of the touch line and touch in goal line.
Inside the 22 metre line
3. When a defending player receives the ball outside the 22 metre line and passes, puts or takes the ball back inside the 22, the following can occur:
a. If the ball is then kicked directly into touch, the lineout is in line with where the ball was kicked.
b. If a tackle, ruck or maul is subsequently formed or an opponent plays the ball and the ball is then kicked directly into touch, the lineout is where the ball crossed the touch line.
Lineout
4. On a quick throw in, the ball can be thrown straight or backwards towards the defenders goal line, but not forward towards the opposition goal line.
5. A player peeling off at the front of the lineout can do so as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands.
6. The receiver in a lineout must stand 2 metres from the lineout.
7. The non throwing hooker does not have to stand between the 5 metre line and the touch line. They must conform to law wherever they stand.
8. There is no maximum number of players in the lineout but there is a minimum of 2.
9. Neither team determines numbers in the lineout.
10. Pre-gripping is allowed.
11. If a lineout throw is not straight, the option is a lineout or FK to non throwing team. (Added 1 Oct).
Breakdown (tackle/post tackle)
12. Players entering the breakdown area must do so through the gate. RIGIDLY APPLIED
13. Immediately the tackle occurs there are offside lines.
14. The offside lines run parallel to the goal lines through the hindmost part of the hindmost player at the tackle.
15. A tackled player must immediately play the ball and may not be prevented from playing the ball by any player who is off their feet. (Added 1 Oct).
16. Any other player playing the ball at the breakdown must be on their feet. (Added 1 Oct)
17. If the ball is unplayable at the breakdown, the side that did not take the ball into contact will receive a FK.
18. If the ball is received directly from a kick and a tackle occurs immediately, and the ball becomes unplayable, the FK is given to the team who received the kick.
19. There are only 3 penalty offences (not including dangerous play) at the breakdown:
a. Offside for not coming through the gate.
b. Offside where defenders are in front of the last man on their side of the breakdown. i.e. the offside line.
c. Players on the ground preventing playing of the ball.
20. Repeated infringements can be dealt with as per current law.
21. A scrum option is available for all FKs.
22. Dangerous play will not be tolerated. Eg. Diving over the breakdown.
23. The half back should not be touched unless he has his hands on the ball.
Maul
24. Defending players can pull down the maul.
25. Players joining the maul must do so through the gate. RIGIDLY APPLIED.
26. If a maul becomes unplayable, the team not in possession at the start of the maul receives a FK.
27. The ‘truck and trailer’ is no longer an offence.
Scrum
28. The offside line for players who are not in the scrum and who are not the teams scrum half, is 5 metres behind the hindmost foot of the scrum.
Sanctions
26. For all offences other than offside, not entering through the gate, and Law 10-Foul Play, the sanction is a FK.
*FK = Free Kick.
Touch Judges
1. TJ’s can indicate offside at the tackle by raising their flag horizontally in the direction of the offending team. This flag raising will be mirrored by the opposite TJ so as to provide visual assistance to the referee. The referee however is not obliged to act on the offence.
Posts and flags around the field
2. Corner post, and post at corner of touch in goal and dead ball line are moved back 2 metres. This ensures consistency of touch along the entire length of the touch line and touch in goal line.
Inside the 22 metre line
3. When a defending player receives the ball outside the 22 metre line and passes, puts or takes the ball back inside the 22, the following can occur:
a. If the ball is then kicked directly into touch, the lineout is in line with where the ball was kicked.
b. If a tackle, ruck or maul is subsequently formed or an opponent plays the ball and the ball is then kicked directly into touch, the lineout is where the ball crossed the touch line.
Lineout
4. On a quick throw in, the ball can be thrown straight or backwards towards the defenders goal line, but not forward towards the opposition goal line.
5. A player peeling off at the front of the lineout can do so as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands.
6. The receiver in a lineout must stand 2 metres from the lineout.
7. The non throwing hooker does not have to stand between the 5 metre line and the touch line. They must conform to law wherever they stand.
8. There is no maximum number of players in the lineout but there is a minimum of 2.
9. Neither team determines numbers in the lineout.
10. Pre-gripping is allowed.
11. If a lineout throw is not straight, the option is a lineout or FK to non throwing team. (Added 1 Oct).
Breakdown (tackle/post tackle)
12. Players entering the breakdown area must do so through the gate. RIGIDLY APPLIED
13. Immediately the tackle occurs there are offside lines.
14. The offside lines run parallel to the goal lines through the hindmost part of the hindmost player at the tackle.
15. A tackled player must immediately play the ball and may not be prevented from playing the ball by any player who is off their feet. (Added 1 Oct).
16. Any other player playing the ball at the breakdown must be on their feet. (Added 1 Oct)
17. If the ball is unplayable at the breakdown, the side that did not take the ball into contact will receive a FK.
18. If the ball is received directly from a kick and a tackle occurs immediately, and the ball becomes unplayable, the FK is given to the team who received the kick.
19. There are only 3 penalty offences (not including dangerous play) at the breakdown:
a. Offside for not coming through the gate.
b. Offside where defenders are in front of the last man on their side of the breakdown. i.e. the offside line.
c. Players on the ground preventing playing of the ball.
20. Repeated infringements can be dealt with as per current law.
21. A scrum option is available for all FKs.
22. Dangerous play will not be tolerated. Eg. Diving over the breakdown.
23. The half back should not be touched unless he has his hands on the ball.
Maul
24. Defending players can pull down the maul.
25. Players joining the maul must do so through the gate. RIGIDLY APPLIED.
26. If a maul becomes unplayable, the team not in possession at the start of the maul receives a FK.
27. The ‘truck and trailer’ is no longer an offence.
Scrum
28. The offside line for players who are not in the scrum and who are not the teams scrum half, is 5 metres behind the hindmost foot of the scrum.
Sanctions
26. For all offences other than offside, not entering through the gate, and Law 10-Foul Play, the sanction is a FK.
*FK = Free Kick.
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Pukana
- Messaggi: 1063
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