quando sono coì lunghi gli articoli in inglese sarebbe gradita una sintesi in italiano
resume it in italian , please.
All Blacks: Graham Henry riconfermato
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Pakeha_70
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Deans pensa che la NZRU avesse già preso una decisione prima di ascoltare i candidati.metabolik ha scritto:quando sono coì lunghi gli articoli in inglese sarebbe gradita una sintesi in italiano
resume it in italian , please.
Deans vuole, a breve termine, allenare a livello internazionale.
Il posto di allenatore del'Australia è vacante e l'ARU farebbe carte false per avere Deans
Non c'è la possibilità che il posto da allenatore AB si liberi fino al 2012.
Henry dice che Deans è un grande allenatore e non dovrebbe lasciare la NZ. (anche perchè non so cosa succederebbe se nel 2008 Deans con l'Australia andasse a vincere in NZ e vincesse la Bledsloe Cup...)
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Notizie dell'ultima ora vogliono:
- Robbie Deans in Australia Mercoledi' e Giovedi' per affrontare il suo colloquio con la Board della Union Australiana e potrebbe essere presentato come allenatore dei Wallabies gia' da Venerdi mattina;
- Se in passato Deans aveva confermato che avrebbe onorato il suo contratto con i Crusaders fino alla sua scadenza (che coincide con la fine del S14 2008), ora la questione sembra molto confusa;
- Deans chiamerebbe John Mitchell come suo assistente allenatore alla corte dei Wallabies. Mitchell e' al momento sotto contratto con i Perth Western Force S14 Franchise;
- Deans accusa la NZRU di aver aperto il posto di allenatore solo per coprire il fatto che Henry era gia' stato ri-scelto. Inoltre dice di essersi sentito non voluto da questa dirigenza e che probabilmente mai avra' la possibilita' di allenare gli ABs. In piu' aggiunge che andra' in Australia perche' la NZRU non ha fatto abbastanza per convincerlo a restare in NZL. Graham Henry ha giustamente risposto che se lui (Henry) a 61 anni e' ancora con gli ABs, allora Deans, che di anni ne ha solo 48, avra' sicuramente la sua chance in futuro.
In tutto questo Henry ha confermato che continuera' con il Reconditioning Programme ma dovra' essere effettuato durante un miglior periodo per non disturbare le competizioni in corso. Anche la Rotation Policy e' stata riconfermata.
I kiwi ne hanno gia' abbastanza e nulla e' ancora iniziato........
- Robbie Deans in Australia Mercoledi' e Giovedi' per affrontare il suo colloquio con la Board della Union Australiana e potrebbe essere presentato come allenatore dei Wallabies gia' da Venerdi mattina;
- Se in passato Deans aveva confermato che avrebbe onorato il suo contratto con i Crusaders fino alla sua scadenza (che coincide con la fine del S14 2008), ora la questione sembra molto confusa;
- Deans chiamerebbe John Mitchell come suo assistente allenatore alla corte dei Wallabies. Mitchell e' al momento sotto contratto con i Perth Western Force S14 Franchise;
- Deans accusa la NZRU di aver aperto il posto di allenatore solo per coprire il fatto che Henry era gia' stato ri-scelto. Inoltre dice di essersi sentito non voluto da questa dirigenza e che probabilmente mai avra' la possibilita' di allenare gli ABs. In piu' aggiunge che andra' in Australia perche' la NZRU non ha fatto abbastanza per convincerlo a restare in NZL. Graham Henry ha giustamente risposto che se lui (Henry) a 61 anni e' ancora con gli ABs, allora Deans, che di anni ne ha solo 48, avra' sicuramente la sua chance in futuro.
In tutto questo Henry ha confermato che continuera' con il Reconditioning Programme ma dovra' essere effettuato durante un miglior periodo per non disturbare le competizioni in corso. Anche la Rotation Policy e' stata riconfermata.
I kiwi ne hanno gia' abbastanza e nulla e' ancora iniziato........
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Pakeha_70
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Ora però dall'australia iniziano a levarsi voci molto critiche, vedi Eddie Jones tra gli altri che mettono in dubbio la passione e la volonta di Deans di allenare l'Australia.Notizie dell'ultima ora vogliono:
- Robbie Deans in Australia Mercoledi' e Giovedi' per affrontare il suo colloquio con la Board della Union Australiana e potrebbe essere presentato come allenatore dei Wallabies gia' da Venerdi mattina;
L'ARU ha cambiato poco tempo fa i prorpi regolamenti per permettere anche a un non australiano di allenare l'AUS, cosa prima proibita.
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Sembra che Deans voglia finire la stagione coi Crusaders ma se Deans andasse ad allenare l'AUS la NZRU poterebbe opporsi e sostanzialmente licenziarlo da allenatore dei Crusaders...Se in passato Deans aveva confermato che avrebbe onorato il suo contratto con i Crusaders fino alla sua scadenza (che coincide con la fine del S14 2008), ora la questione sembra molto confusa;
Deans, secondo me, ha ragione quando dice che per il posto di allenatore era tutto scritto ma è altrettanto vero, come dice Henry che per lui c'è ancora tempo....- Deans accusa la NZRU di aver aperto il posto di allenatore solo per coprire il fatto che Henry era gia' stato ri-scelto. Inoltre dice di essersi sentito non voluto da questa dirigenza e che probabilmente mai avra' la possibilita' di allenare gli ABs. In piu' aggiunge che andra' in Australia perche' la NZRU non ha fatto abbastanza per convincerlo a restare in NZL. Graham Henry ha giustamente risposto che se lui (Henry) a 61 anni e' ancora con gli ABs, allora Deans, che di anni ne ha solo 48, avra' sicuramente la sua chance in futuro.
Dopo tutto se nel 2011 perderanno il mondiale in casa, di Henry, Hansen, Tew, Eagle e tutto il board della NZRU non credo rimarrà molto...
AmenIn tutto questo Henry ha confermato che continuera' con il Reconditioning Programme ma dovra' essere effettuato durante un miglior periodo per non disturbare le competizioni in corso. Anche la Rotation Policy e' stata riconfermata.
Hai detto bene...I kiwi ne hanno gia' abbastanza e nulla e' ancora iniziato........
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Robbie Deans e' stato ascoltato dalla Federazione Australiana ieri Martedi' 11 Dicembre. L'annuncio del nuovo allenatore dovrebbe arrivare per domani 13 Dicembre.
Ora....io dico......Se Deans si ' e' irritato perche' la NZRU ha messo su sto' palcoscenico per confermare Father Ted alla guida degli ABs.......come si devono sentire i vari David Nucifora, Alan Jones etc se Deans viene chiamato oltre sponda? Praticamente il bue Deans che da' del cornuto all'asino Henry!
Ora....io dico......Se Deans si ' e' irritato perche' la NZRU ha messo su sto' palcoscenico per confermare Father Ted alla guida degli ABs.......come si devono sentire i vari David Nucifora, Alan Jones etc se Deans viene chiamato oltre sponda? Praticamente il bue Deans che da' del cornuto all'asino Henry!
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Si, non hai tutti i torti...Pukana ha scritto:Robbie Deans e' stato ascoltato dalla Federazione Australiana ieri Martedi' 11 Dicembre. L'annuncio del nuovo allenatore dovrebbe arrivare per domani 13 Dicembre.
Ora....io dico......Se Deans si ' e' irritato perche' la NZRU ha messo su sto' palcoscenico per confermare Father Ted alla guida degli ABs.......come si devono sentire i vari David Nucifora, Alan Jones etc se Deans viene chiamato oltre sponda? Praticamente il bue Deans che da' del cornuto all'asino Henry!
L'unica differenza è che l'ARU non ha mai fatto mistero che Deans era il loro uomo, prorogando fra l'altro apposta i termini della decisione dopo la nomina dell'allenatore AB, e gli altri sono stati intervistati e tenuti in caldo solo nel caso Deans non avesse accettato.
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I want to ... move on
By MARC HINTON
I want to be man enough to say I got it wrong. I want to be dignified enough to concede the horse I backed just wasn't good enough to win this race.
I want to congratulate Graham Henry and say well done on fighting the good fight, the best man won and you deserved to get another crack at this baby.
I want to commiserate with Robbie Deans and pat him on the back and tell him he gave it his best shot but lost out to a better bloke. A better coach.
I want to say I have faith in the New Zealand Rugby Union and the ability of its executive board to make a decision that is in the best interests of the game.
I want to feel that the process wasn't contaminated and that Deans had a chance based on his credentials, not how well liked he is by certain suit-wearing members of the establishment.
I want to be sure that there was nothing sinister in non-voting, seriously self-interested individuals like Steve Tew, Darren Shand and Chris Moller sitting in on the interviews for the position.
I want to feel assured that a voting margin of 7-1 against a man with Deans' superb qualifications didn't stink of political overtones, of a group of men casting a ballot to clear their own consciences, and not to elect the best man to coach the All Blacks.
I want to ask Ivan Haines why he felt so compelled to break ranks and vote against the bloc that had pre-determined to return Henry to his post.
I want to get a strong feeling that Henry has learnt from his mistakes, has realised the wrong turns he took in 2007 and is smart enough to acknowledge that for a guy whose team lost what was almost an unloseable match, he didn't get the one thing that really counted right.
I want to think that we'll never play our fullback at centre again in a major match, and that we'll stop giving away All Black jerseys as though they were merit badges for anyone who can hit a ruck with the right technique.
I want to get an answer to why we're so concerned with burning out our top players when we ask them to play so little rugby.
I want to understand why intelligent All Blacks don't understand the value of a dropped goal in a tight World Cup match.
I want to know why New Zealand has suddenly turned into a nation that accepts, well, not even mediocrity. Outright failure.
I want, more than anything to still believe in the integrity of New Zealand rugby.
I also want to believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa and the Easter Bunny, but long ago came to terms with the reality of that situation.
Perhaps it's also time to face some realities concerning New Zealand rugby.
That is that the game is being led by a flawed organisation that has lost all perspective with the world in which it is operating.
For starters should the NZRU board have even made the call on the next All Blacks coach? I note with interest our old mates across the ditch have a different approach to the decision-making process. They have an interview panel made up of key rugby men who understand what it takes to be an international coach who then make their recommendation to the board of the ARU.
In essence it is they, not a group of businessmen whose job it is to make corporate-type decisions, who decide who has the best credentials to step into a demanding rugby role.
Something tells me – regardless of what decision the Australians come up with at the end of this week – that they have the process right. Certainly it's well above the whiff of self-interest that seems to pervade the NZRU's own democratic operation.
Remember, too, the NZRU is the same organisation that decided in its wisdom (or lack of mettle) to make the elite provincial competition a 14-team event. And now wonders why it's become a mediocre league struggling to grab the public's interest with many of the unions on the fast track to going broke.
But perhaps, concerning the whole Henry-Deans affair, it is time to throw the hands up in the air and just get on with it. The decision has been made, and now we must simply live with it. That is the honourable thing to do for all us Kiwis now.
We may not like the All Blacks coaching decision, but unfortunately we have to lump it.
Henry is here for at least another two years and I have no doubt he will make a good fist of the job. He certainly has the motivation to do so.
Deans will almost certainly be made Wallabies coach now (providing the ARU gets its head round the concept of a Kiwi guiding their national fortunes), and for the legion of supporters he has in our game there will at least be the consolation of being able to gauge how he fares with the enemy across the ditch. Well, I suspect.
All of which raises this intriguing thought: should Deans, as Wallabies coach, defeat New Zealand to return the Bledisloe Cup to Australia, what would the fallout be at HQ in Wellington?
Blood on the tracks, I'd think.
That alone should make the next test season compelling watching. Henry may have won the battle against Deans, but the war looks like being a long way from over
By MARC HINTON
I want to be man enough to say I got it wrong. I want to be dignified enough to concede the horse I backed just wasn't good enough to win this race.
I want to congratulate Graham Henry and say well done on fighting the good fight, the best man won and you deserved to get another crack at this baby.
I want to commiserate with Robbie Deans and pat him on the back and tell him he gave it his best shot but lost out to a better bloke. A better coach.
I want to say I have faith in the New Zealand Rugby Union and the ability of its executive board to make a decision that is in the best interests of the game.
I want to feel that the process wasn't contaminated and that Deans had a chance based on his credentials, not how well liked he is by certain suit-wearing members of the establishment.
I want to be sure that there was nothing sinister in non-voting, seriously self-interested individuals like Steve Tew, Darren Shand and Chris Moller sitting in on the interviews for the position.
I want to feel assured that a voting margin of 7-1 against a man with Deans' superb qualifications didn't stink of political overtones, of a group of men casting a ballot to clear their own consciences, and not to elect the best man to coach the All Blacks.
I want to ask Ivan Haines why he felt so compelled to break ranks and vote against the bloc that had pre-determined to return Henry to his post.
I want to get a strong feeling that Henry has learnt from his mistakes, has realised the wrong turns he took in 2007 and is smart enough to acknowledge that for a guy whose team lost what was almost an unloseable match, he didn't get the one thing that really counted right.
I want to think that we'll never play our fullback at centre again in a major match, and that we'll stop giving away All Black jerseys as though they were merit badges for anyone who can hit a ruck with the right technique.
I want to get an answer to why we're so concerned with burning out our top players when we ask them to play so little rugby.
I want to understand why intelligent All Blacks don't understand the value of a dropped goal in a tight World Cup match.
I want to know why New Zealand has suddenly turned into a nation that accepts, well, not even mediocrity. Outright failure.
I want, more than anything to still believe in the integrity of New Zealand rugby.
I also want to believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa and the Easter Bunny, but long ago came to terms with the reality of that situation.
Perhaps it's also time to face some realities concerning New Zealand rugby.
That is that the game is being led by a flawed organisation that has lost all perspective with the world in which it is operating.
For starters should the NZRU board have even made the call on the next All Blacks coach? I note with interest our old mates across the ditch have a different approach to the decision-making process. They have an interview panel made up of key rugby men who understand what it takes to be an international coach who then make their recommendation to the board of the ARU.
In essence it is they, not a group of businessmen whose job it is to make corporate-type decisions, who decide who has the best credentials to step into a demanding rugby role.
Something tells me – regardless of what decision the Australians come up with at the end of this week – that they have the process right. Certainly it's well above the whiff of self-interest that seems to pervade the NZRU's own democratic operation.
Remember, too, the NZRU is the same organisation that decided in its wisdom (or lack of mettle) to make the elite provincial competition a 14-team event. And now wonders why it's become a mediocre league struggling to grab the public's interest with many of the unions on the fast track to going broke.
But perhaps, concerning the whole Henry-Deans affair, it is time to throw the hands up in the air and just get on with it. The decision has been made, and now we must simply live with it. That is the honourable thing to do for all us Kiwis now.
We may not like the All Blacks coaching decision, but unfortunately we have to lump it.
Henry is here for at least another two years and I have no doubt he will make a good fist of the job. He certainly has the motivation to do so.
Deans will almost certainly be made Wallabies coach now (providing the ARU gets its head round the concept of a Kiwi guiding their national fortunes), and for the legion of supporters he has in our game there will at least be the consolation of being able to gauge how he fares with the enemy across the ditch. Well, I suspect.
All of which raises this intriguing thought: should Deans, as Wallabies coach, defeat New Zealand to return the Bledisloe Cup to Australia, what would the fallout be at HQ in Wellington?
Blood on the tracks, I'd think.
That alone should make the next test season compelling watching. Henry may have won the battle against Deans, but the war looks like being a long way from over
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Se qualcuno volesse tentare una carriera negli ABs, ecco la vostra occasione: tre posiszioni "aperte" nel 2008.
Changes to All Blacks management
3:20PM Friday February 22, 2008
The All Blacks' management team will undergo changes and be smaller for the 2008 international rugby season.
All Blacks manager Darren Shand confirmed today that the departure of five members of 2007 team management would result in three positions being advertised for.
Otherwise the bulk of the 2007 team management had been retained.
In addition to Shand and coaches Graham Henry, Steve Hansen and Wayne Smith, the All Blacks retain doctor Deb Robinson, physiotherapist Peter Gallagher, equipment manager Errol Collins and media manager Scott Compton.
Strength and conditioning coach Graham Lowe planned to move overseas - reportedly to work with United States America's Cup yachting syndicate Oracle.
Assistant strength and conditioning coach Ashley Jones, video analyst Andrew Sullivan and muscle therapist George Duncan have also opted to relinquish their All Blacks jobs.
Jones and Sullivan remain with the Crusaders while Duncan will concentrate on his private practice.
All Blacks selector Sir Brian Lochore retired late last year.
The All Blacks will appoint a new strength and conditioning coach, video analyst and muscle therapist for the 2008 season.
Shand said the All Blacks would also supplement the staff of 11 with the services of specialists from the New Zealand Rugby Union's high performance unit such as scrum coach Mike Cron, skills coach Mick Byrne and mental skills coach Gilbert Enoka.
"Mike Cron and Mick Byrne serve the provinces, academies and 14 franchises as well as the All Blacks," Shand said in a statement.
"We need to work through exactly how their time is divided in 2008, but their specialist knowledge is important at all levels of New Zealand rugby including the All Blacks."
Shand said the scope of Enoka's work and level of involvement was yet to be confirmed.
"We review every staff memberb s performance at the end of the season and believe we have a hard-working group with a great deal of expertise and experience," Shand said.
"We don't want to lose sight of that despite the disappointment of last year's Rugby World Cup.
"At the same time, some change was expected. Rugby has a natural four year cycle nowadays so we are happy to have retained the staff that we have. We won't look to replace Sir Brian - I don't think we could if we tried - and we'll have one strength and conditioning role in 2008 rather than two."
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Changes to All Blacks management
3:20PM Friday February 22, 2008
The All Blacks' management team will undergo changes and be smaller for the 2008 international rugby season.
All Blacks manager Darren Shand confirmed today that the departure of five members of 2007 team management would result in three positions being advertised for.
Otherwise the bulk of the 2007 team management had been retained.
In addition to Shand and coaches Graham Henry, Steve Hansen and Wayne Smith, the All Blacks retain doctor Deb Robinson, physiotherapist Peter Gallagher, equipment manager Errol Collins and media manager Scott Compton.
Strength and conditioning coach Graham Lowe planned to move overseas - reportedly to work with United States America's Cup yachting syndicate Oracle.
Assistant strength and conditioning coach Ashley Jones, video analyst Andrew Sullivan and muscle therapist George Duncan have also opted to relinquish their All Blacks jobs.
Jones and Sullivan remain with the Crusaders while Duncan will concentrate on his private practice.
All Blacks selector Sir Brian Lochore retired late last year.
The All Blacks will appoint a new strength and conditioning coach, video analyst and muscle therapist for the 2008 season.
Shand said the All Blacks would also supplement the staff of 11 with the services of specialists from the New Zealand Rugby Union's high performance unit such as scrum coach Mike Cron, skills coach Mick Byrne and mental skills coach Gilbert Enoka.
"Mike Cron and Mick Byrne serve the provinces, academies and 14 franchises as well as the All Blacks," Shand said in a statement.
"We need to work through exactly how their time is divided in 2008, but their specialist knowledge is important at all levels of New Zealand rugby including the All Blacks."
Shand said the scope of Enoka's work and level of involvement was yet to be confirmed.
"We review every staff memberb s performance at the end of the season and believe we have a hard-working group with a great deal of expertise and experience," Shand said.
"We don't want to lose sight of that despite the disappointment of last year's Rugby World Cup.
"At the same time, some change was expected. Rugby has a natural four year cycle nowadays so we are happy to have retained the staff that we have. We won't look to replace Sir Brian - I don't think we could if we tried - and we'll have one strength and conditioning role in 2008 rather than two."
- NZPA