Dan Carter in Europa?
Inviato: 15 apr 2008, 8:17
Dan Carter, Nick Evans, Jerry Collins e Mose Tuiali'i dovrebbero trasferirsi in europa all'inizio del 2009.
Rugby: NZRU confirms Carter likely to leave
The New Zealand Rugby Union admits it will probably lose first five-eighth Daniel Carter to an overseas club at the end of the year.
Carter is one of a host of top All Blacks off contract at the end of the year.
The rugby union's professional rugby manager Neil Sorenson said the likes of Carter, Nick Evans, Mose Tuiali'i and Jerry Collins could all go.
He said in an ideal world they would keep all their top players but potentially all those guys could be lost to the game here because that is their career move these days.
Sorenson said they are working incredibly hard to keep as many top players as possible. He said there is light at the end of the tunnel with youngsters coming through and they just have to adapt.
The Herald on Sunday reported both Carter and Evans have told the All Blacks selectors they were likely to move overseas after the Grand Slam tour in November.
Evans, who has offers to play in England, France and Ireland, is expected to make a decision in the next few weeks.
However, Carter's situation is expected to take longer to resolve.
The Herald on Sunday said the NZRU is understood to have offered the star five-eighths a sabbatical period, up to 18 months, so he could play in Europe next year while remaining contracted to the national body.
NZRU digs in for battle to keep Carter
The New Zealand Rugby Union admits it is ready to go "radical" in the fight to keep top players in this country, though at the same time concedes it may be fighting a losing battle to hold on to its biggest superstar Dan Carter.
As revealed by RugbyHeaven some time ago, Carter and fellow All Black first five Nick Evans are both being heavily targeted by cashed up clubs in the north, with both coming off their NZRU contracts at the end of this year.
Carter has made no secret for some time now of his desire to experience a different culture and rugby experience in the north while Evans is at a similar point in his career, though it's understood the idea of having a Carter-free run at the All Black No 10 jersey may yet cause him to reconsider.
With English rugby clubs having their salary cap increased by around 1 million next season and their French rivals having no such restrictions in their wheeling and dealing, the available top-tier talent such as Evans and Carter are in the process of being inundated with offer sheets.
Media reports this week have added outstanding Crusaders No 8 Mose Tuiali'i to the list of imminent departees, while Canes loosie Jerry Collins has also been mentioned as another facing big offers. Collins recently played down French reports of an imminent move but certainly left the prospect open when he told the Dominion-Post: "It's just a question of when. I'm taking things year by year and I'm enjoying being with the Hurricanes."
Last year New Zealand rugby lost its biggest ever pool of top All Black talent, with Carl Hayman, Luke McAlister, Aaron Mauger, Chris Jack, Byron Kelleher, Doug Howlett, Anton Oliver, Rico Gear, Greg Rawlinson and Sam Tuitupou among a raft of players heading north. Of that group McAlister, Mauger and Hayman would have been regarded as test players still with long-term futures.
The NZRU's general manager of professional rugby Neil Sorenson told Radio Sport today that the continued overseas exodus remains a major concern and that the national body is preparing to use whatever means it can to retain leading players.
In Carter's case it has been floated that the NZRU may be prepared to grant him an OE-type sabbatical which would allow him to take a rich short-term contract in the north yet still return to New Zealand rugby, in time for, say, the 2011 World Cup.
"It's certainly on the whiteboard at the moment," Sorenson told the station's breakfast host of the potential for short-term releases. "There are a lot of things more radical than that on the whiteboard as well."
Sorenson said IRB regulations meant agreements had to be more of the handshake variety, but it had reached a time when the NZRU had to start thinking outside the square in terms of retaining its top All Black talent.
"That's absolutely one of the things we are considering," he added. "If a guy is going to go offshore the first thing we do is sit down and say a) we want to keep in touch, b) we want you leaving on good terms and c) we want you home."
But Sorenson conceded in terms of Carter, Evans, Tuiali'i and Collins he could offer no guarantees that all four wouldn't be playing their rugby in the north next year.
"Potentially we will lose all those guys," said Sorenson. "Potentially we will lose all the guys currently playing for the All Blacks. That's their career move these days. It's a logical progression - they make the All Blacks, play for the All Blacks as long as they can or as long as we can keep them, and then secure themselves a contract offshore."
But, with French giants Stade Francais and Toulouse said to be leading the hunt for Carter's signature and Harlequins and Newport Gwent Dragoins both chasing Evans, Sorenson said it was not all doom and gloom.
"We think there is light at the end of the tunnel, and that we just have to adapt," he told Radio Sport. "Maybe in three of four years' time the whole rugby environment will be quite different.
"We're 13 years into a professional sport, which is still very young. It's changing, this thing is hitting us and it's getting harder and harder. We're just doing our best to battle it.
"It's a battle but we're certainly not throwing the towel in."
Sorenson said the dollars on offer, which are "massive", remained the principal factor in the offshore drift, but it was not the only one. Of primary concern in terms of trends, he added, was the fact that players now heading away were getting younger and were being plucked in the prime of their test careers.
"That's a new phenomenon for us," he added. "In terms of new tactics we basically have to adapt to the environment, and as the environment changes, we need to change, and we need to look at all things."
Rugby: NZRU confirms Carter likely to leave
The New Zealand Rugby Union admits it will probably lose first five-eighth Daniel Carter to an overseas club at the end of the year.
Carter is one of a host of top All Blacks off contract at the end of the year.
The rugby union's professional rugby manager Neil Sorenson said the likes of Carter, Nick Evans, Mose Tuiali'i and Jerry Collins could all go.
He said in an ideal world they would keep all their top players but potentially all those guys could be lost to the game here because that is their career move these days.
Sorenson said they are working incredibly hard to keep as many top players as possible. He said there is light at the end of the tunnel with youngsters coming through and they just have to adapt.
The Herald on Sunday reported both Carter and Evans have told the All Blacks selectors they were likely to move overseas after the Grand Slam tour in November.
Evans, who has offers to play in England, France and Ireland, is expected to make a decision in the next few weeks.
However, Carter's situation is expected to take longer to resolve.
The Herald on Sunday said the NZRU is understood to have offered the star five-eighths a sabbatical period, up to 18 months, so he could play in Europe next year while remaining contracted to the national body.
NZRU digs in for battle to keep Carter
The New Zealand Rugby Union admits it is ready to go "radical" in the fight to keep top players in this country, though at the same time concedes it may be fighting a losing battle to hold on to its biggest superstar Dan Carter.
As revealed by RugbyHeaven some time ago, Carter and fellow All Black first five Nick Evans are both being heavily targeted by cashed up clubs in the north, with both coming off their NZRU contracts at the end of this year.
Carter has made no secret for some time now of his desire to experience a different culture and rugby experience in the north while Evans is at a similar point in his career, though it's understood the idea of having a Carter-free run at the All Black No 10 jersey may yet cause him to reconsider.
With English rugby clubs having their salary cap increased by around 1 million next season and their French rivals having no such restrictions in their wheeling and dealing, the available top-tier talent such as Evans and Carter are in the process of being inundated with offer sheets.
Media reports this week have added outstanding Crusaders No 8 Mose Tuiali'i to the list of imminent departees, while Canes loosie Jerry Collins has also been mentioned as another facing big offers. Collins recently played down French reports of an imminent move but certainly left the prospect open when he told the Dominion-Post: "It's just a question of when. I'm taking things year by year and I'm enjoying being with the Hurricanes."
Last year New Zealand rugby lost its biggest ever pool of top All Black talent, with Carl Hayman, Luke McAlister, Aaron Mauger, Chris Jack, Byron Kelleher, Doug Howlett, Anton Oliver, Rico Gear, Greg Rawlinson and Sam Tuitupou among a raft of players heading north. Of that group McAlister, Mauger and Hayman would have been regarded as test players still with long-term futures.
The NZRU's general manager of professional rugby Neil Sorenson told Radio Sport today that the continued overseas exodus remains a major concern and that the national body is preparing to use whatever means it can to retain leading players.
In Carter's case it has been floated that the NZRU may be prepared to grant him an OE-type sabbatical which would allow him to take a rich short-term contract in the north yet still return to New Zealand rugby, in time for, say, the 2011 World Cup.
"It's certainly on the whiteboard at the moment," Sorenson told the station's breakfast host of the potential for short-term releases. "There are a lot of things more radical than that on the whiteboard as well."
Sorenson said IRB regulations meant agreements had to be more of the handshake variety, but it had reached a time when the NZRU had to start thinking outside the square in terms of retaining its top All Black talent.
"That's absolutely one of the things we are considering," he added. "If a guy is going to go offshore the first thing we do is sit down and say a) we want to keep in touch, b) we want you leaving on good terms and c) we want you home."
But Sorenson conceded in terms of Carter, Evans, Tuiali'i and Collins he could offer no guarantees that all four wouldn't be playing their rugby in the north next year.
"Potentially we will lose all those guys," said Sorenson. "Potentially we will lose all the guys currently playing for the All Blacks. That's their career move these days. It's a logical progression - they make the All Blacks, play for the All Blacks as long as they can or as long as we can keep them, and then secure themselves a contract offshore."
But, with French giants Stade Francais and Toulouse said to be leading the hunt for Carter's signature and Harlequins and Newport Gwent Dragoins both chasing Evans, Sorenson said it was not all doom and gloom.
"We think there is light at the end of the tunnel, and that we just have to adapt," he told Radio Sport. "Maybe in three of four years' time the whole rugby environment will be quite different.
"We're 13 years into a professional sport, which is still very young. It's changing, this thing is hitting us and it's getting harder and harder. We're just doing our best to battle it.
"It's a battle but we're certainly not throwing the towel in."
Sorenson said the dollars on offer, which are "massive", remained the principal factor in the offshore drift, but it was not the only one. Of primary concern in terms of trends, he added, was the fact that players now heading away were getting younger and were being plucked in the prime of their test careers.
"That's a new phenomenon for us," he added. "In terms of new tactics we basically have to adapt to the environment, and as the environment changes, we need to change, and we need to look at all things."