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Team of the week di PR:
Campagnaro uber alles e menzioni per Gori (definito spina nel fianco del gallesi) e Parisse (loro stravedono per il capitano)
http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,2588 ... 31,00.html

15 Rob Kearney (Ireland) - Played in his 50th Test and capped a memorable performance with his side's third try late on, which sealed their victory over Scotland. Kearney was safe under the high ball and impressed in attack with 79 metres gained. He just edges out Stuart Hogg, who was, as usual, one of the Scots' best players especially with ball in hand.
14 Yoann Huget (France) - Two tries and 74 metres gained by Huget in Paris showed his threat in attack. Though aided by the bounce of the ball, Huget finished both his opportunities well, and managed three clean breaks - more than any other player - as he proved the game's most incisive runner. On the opposing side, England's Jack Nowell endured a tough start to his Test debut, but should be commended for showing the resilience to bounce back, finishing with an impressive three defenders beaten.
13 Michele Campagnaro (Italy) - The only time 20-year-old Campagnaro looked ill at ease inside the Millennium Stadium was when confronted with a post-match BBC interview. His grasp of the English language may have been lacking a tad, but his performance was outstanding on just his third cap; bagging two excellent long-range tries - the first a kick-and-chase, the second an opportunistic interception of Leigh Halfpenny's pass - and finishing with a whopping 107 metres gained and two defenders beaten. No mean feat at the home of the defending champions; an arena where England failed to muster more than three points a year ago. His opposite number, in-form Scarlet Scott Williams, also enjoyed an impressive outing, crossing the whitewash in the process.
12 Jamie Roberts (Wales) - Roberts returned to Test rugby with a bang on Saturday, and was arguably his side's best player. Typically direct and powerful with ball in hand, he provided go-forward and a platform from which Wales could attack. Unsurprisingly, he was used rather a lot by Warren Gatland's men; a total of 17 carries yielding just shy of 50 metres. And his telling contribution came via a powerful midfield break to send Williams galloping home. In Paris, Wesley Fofana had a quiet game by his own standards, but still proved tricky to handle for the English defence, with 47 metres gained, and a clean break to his name. The Clermont flyer was solid without the ball too, making nine tackles and missing none.
11 Sean Lamont (Scotland) - Despite a poor overall performance from Scotland, Lamont can be happy after a fine effort. He combined well in attack with Hogg and crossed the advantage line at will, gaining 75 metres in the process. Lamont also put his body on the line in defence with nine hits.
10 Owen Farrell (England) - Farrell delivered his best performance in an England shirt to date. His kicking game was spot on, playing France back into the corners when England's pack got on top. He was also unafraid to attack the gain line, releasing England's big runners and making 47 metres himself and beating a couple of defenders in the process. This though was about maturity. We forget he is only 22. A mention for Rhys Priestland who shone against Italy.
9 Danny Care (England) - Care's selection over the more pragmatic Ben Youngs was a statement of intent from Stuart Lancaster. It was one that paid off, however, as Care proved to be the heartbeat of the English effort across the Channel. Typically lively and threatening in possession, Care's quick tap-penalty led to a try for Mike Brown, and the scrum-half even took the opportunity to slot a well-taken drop-goal. It was rather surprising to see Lancaster replace him while he looked to be at the peak of his powers. Elsewhere, Edoardo Gori was a thorn in the Welsh side.
8 Billy Vunipola (England) - If you outshine Louis Picamoles then you must be doing something right. Vunipola was absolutely brilliant for England in Paris, providing two assists for both of the visitors' tries. The second one was a brilliant run, beating three defenders before serving up Luther Burrell for a try on a plate. He is such a destructive runner. Vunipola finished with 68 metres from 17 carries. Mentions for Jamie Heaslip and Sergio Parisse.
7 Yannick Nyanga (France) - The marauding openside was simply outstanding; a key factor in France's eventual triumph, and a more than able replacement for his injured Toulouse team-mate, Thierry Dusautoir. A perennial nuisance at the breakdown, Nyanga hounded the English forwards, and made over 40 metres with ball in hand courtesy of several storming breaks downfield, beating more defenders (seven) than any other player in Round One. Ireland's Chris Henry had the beating of the Scottish pack around the breakdown, and showed up well in the loose to gain 15 metres.
6 Tom Wood (England) - A man on a mission, at least to rough up Jules Plisson early on, Wood's work was dogged on the blindside for England in the Paris battle. He made 11 tackles, caught lineouts and hit rucks with fire. England's back-row worked tirelessly and probably deserved more for their efforts, but as a unit they are starting to impress. Wood is a key part of that with his leadership as well. A mention for Dan Lydiate, who after a busy week jetting from Cardiff to Paris and back following the birth of his daughter made 12 tackles against Italy.
5 Pascal Papé (France) - France's captain might just be filling in for Dusautoir - his words, not ours - but he did a pretty good job. France surged and then retreated before coming back right at the death thanks to Gaël Fickou, with Papé on the field throughout. He even made more tackles than Nyanga, a monstrous 14, and was at his physically imposing best trying to handle Courtney Lawes. Lawes also gets a mention for a hugely impressive shift and one notable lineout steal.
4 Joe Launchbury (England) - Lawes might have not made the cut but Launchbury does. His workrate is simply outstanding and at 22 he embodies England's current ethos of picking young, talented players and watching them grow. Launchbury made ten tackles and took his lineout balls, but it was his effort busting from breakdown to breakdown that really caught the eye. He keeps out Devin Toner - the Irish giant putting his hand up by winning five lineouts and making ten tackles.
3 Nicolas Mas (France) - England might have won the lineout battle overall, but the scrum was all about France. It was no surprise to see Mas at the heart of it, hassling Joe Marler on his side with Papé in support while Thomas Domingo got to work on Dan Cole. The extra week's scrummaging practice seemed to pay off handsomely as France looked competitive in that area once more against one of the world's better packs. Eight tackles to boot underlined a strong performance.
2 Rory Best (Ireland) - Best got through a lot of the hard graft up front which allowed his more flashier team-mates to shine. He did his core duties well, especially at the line-outs, where he found his jumpers with ease. The Ulsterman also worked well in defence with six tackles, meaning he beats out Wales number two Richard Hibbard who impressed against Italy.
1 Cian Healy (Ireland) - The Leinster powerhouse showed again why he is so highly-rated with a superb all-round display. Scrummed well, cleaned out the rucks with determination and showed a fine turn of speed when he went on a bullocking run, in the second half, which caught Scotland's defenders by surprise. A mention for the destructive Thomas Domingo.
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Campagnaro fa il pieno e viene inserito anche da scrum nel XV ideale http://www.espnscrum.com/six-nations-20 ... 13173.html:


Fantasy team of the weekend

•Outside backs: Yoann Huget, Rob Kearney, Alex Cuthbert
•Centres: Michele Campagnaro, Scott Williams

•Fly-half: Jonathan Sexton
•Scrum-half: Danny Care

•Front-row: Dylan Hartley, Rory Best, Adam Jones
•Second-row: Joe Launchbury, Pascal Pape
•Back-row Billy Vunipola, Jamie Heaslip, Justin Tipuric
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Hap ha scritto:Sì, sono d'accordo.
Quello che ci è sempre mancato è il riconfermarsi ad alti livelli in due partite di fila. E non è la stessa cosa che giocare bene la prima, fare la solita figura da spaventapasseri alla seconda e giocare alla morte in una delle altre come per lavare l'onta della partita indegna.
Ma io sono fiducioso, piano piano arriveremo anche a quello.
Sono la famose vittorie di "movimento" che ci sono sempre mancate, poichè oltre a convincere dobbiamo iniziare pure a vincere, nel più breve tempo possibile.
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Mr Ian ha scritto:
Hap ha scritto:Sì, sono d'accordo.
Quello che ci è sempre mancato è il riconfermarsi ad alti livelli in due partite di fila. E non è la stessa cosa che giocare bene la prima, fare la solita figura da spaventapasseri alla seconda e giocare alla morte in una delle altre come per lavare l'onta della partita indegna.
Ma io sono fiducioso, piano piano arriveremo anche a quello.
Sono la famose vittorie di "movimento" che ci sono sempre mancate, poichè oltre a convincere dobbiamo iniziare pure a vincere, nel più breve tempo possibile.
OT
Ma gli Scarlets che prendono Barkley per quattro mesi?
"C'è solo una cosa al mondo meglio del rugby. Parlare di rugby"
(parafrasi da G.G. Marquez)

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/how-much-funding-welsh-rugby-12405682 A imperitura memoria
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Garryowen ha scritto:
Mr Ian ha scritto:
Hap ha scritto:Sì, sono d'accordo.
Quello che ci è sempre mancato è il riconfermarsi ad alti livelli in due partite di fila. E non è la stessa cosa che giocare bene la prima, fare la solita figura da spaventapasseri alla seconda e giocare alla morte in una delle altre come per lavare l'onta della partita indegna.
Ma io sono fiducioso, piano piano arriveremo anche a quello.
Sono la famose vittorie di "movimento" che ci sono sempre mancate, poichè oltre a convincere dobbiamo iniziare pure a vincere, nel più breve tempo possibile.
OT
Ma gli Scarlets che prendono Barkley per quattro mesi?
Si infatti, il giocatore si trovava già a Llanelli, in quanto si allenava con Mark Tainton, visto che era pure disoccupato, considero l accordo un buon acquisto.
Anzi ti dirò di più, spero si adatti bene e sia in forma, la sua presenza sarà fondamentale anche l anno prossimo, insieme a Regan King potrebbero formare un gruppetto di giocatori esperienti, che siano da modello per i giovani, e titolari c'è ne fin troppi, con tutti i pro e contro...
Intanto sabato trasferta a Treviso...
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bene Mr Ian, se venite a Treviso e vincete, ci dite anche se restate in Celtic? tanto lo sappiamo che avete già stretto accordi con i munifici inglesi, e siete d'accordo con gli altri che noi italiani del rugby o siamo spinti dall' irb o valiamo poco come club. lo sappiamo perchè siamo coscienti del nostro valore.poco valore, economico.però, con nelle gambe la Celtica per quattro stagioni, vi abbiamo stupito a casa vostra, insinuandovi paurose insicurezze.
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tonione ha scritto:bene Mr Ian, se venite a Treviso e vincete, ci dite anche se restate in Celtic? tanto lo sappiamo che avete già stretto accordi con i munifici inglesi, e siete d'accordo con gli altri che noi italiani del rugby o siamo spinti dall' irb o valiamo poco come club. lo sappiamo perchè siamo coscienti del nostro valore.poco valore, economico.però, con nelle gambe la Celtica per quattro stagioni, vi abbiamo stupito a casa vostra, insinuandovi paurose insicurezze.
Ti dirò, Treviso ha un ottima considerazione all estero, soprattutto a Llanelli, ricordo ancora benissimo la partita dell anno scorso....
Il messaggio che vuol far passare la FIR però è sbagliato, come se dipendesse dalle gallesi il destino delle squadre italiane, se le due franchigie vogliono rimanere in Celtic, basta dirlo. E' inutile aspettare alla finestra cosa fanno gli altri, poi sul passaggio in Aviva ci sono molti pro e contro, io sono un pò scettico, però il palcoscenico è molto invitante...
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Garryowen ha scritto:E intanto i francesi hanno già fatto un manifestino con un galletto che sta finendo di preparare un arrosto e la scritta: "Les rosbeefs c'est fait. La semaine prochaine c'est macaroni"
Quello é folclore. Comprensibile folclore.
Hanno una paura fottuta di perdere domenica.
Sanno benissimo che la vittoria di sabato contro l'Inghilterra non ha risolto i loro problemi.
Sul piano morale arrivano più tranquilli, su quello sportivo un po meno. E non é detto che non sia un vantaggio per noi.
Sanno che sarà battaglia, sono rimasti molto ma molto sorpresi dalla "meglio gioventù" proposta da Brunel a Cardiff.
Il calo fisico dei francesi nel secondo tempo del Crunch li preoccupa parecchio.
E' evidente che, per loro, il risultato di domenica non può' essere diverso da una loro vittoria, ma la sicurezza che esprimevano negli anni scorsi é molto ma molto attenuata.
Ricordo di trasmissioni, televisive e radiofoniche in cui l'unico pronostico era sul distacco nel punteggio. Su chi avrebbe segnato più mete dei loro 3/4.
La due sberle ricevute a Roma nel 2011 e 2013 hanno scavato un solco nella testa dei rugbisti francesi.
Con l'Italia si può' perdere, eccome se si può perdere.
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sul piano dei "freddi" numeri e statistiche leggo dal sito rbs6nations.com che i ns. hanno fatto 121 placaggi contro 100 dei gallesi avendone effettuato positivamente l'88% contro il 94% dei rossi sbagliandone ben 17 contro 6........
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bosch ha scritto:sul piano dei "freddi" numeri e statistiche leggo dal sito rbs6nations.com che i ns. hanno fatto 121 placaggi contro 100 dei gallesi avendone effettuato positivamente l'88% contro il 94% dei rossi sbagliandone ben 17 contro 6........
Effettivamente il dato, gia' segnalato anche in precedenti post, di una percentuale solo dell'88% deve darci un po' diallarme...ricordo che nelle due vittorie a roma 2013 contro francia ed irlanda avevamo raggiunto il 94-95% di placcaggi riusciti....mentre nelle partite dei tm estivi ed autunnali non eravamo mai andati o.tre 84-85%.....il 10% di differenza, su una media di circa 100 placcaggi a partita, di riuscita e' enorme nel bilancio di una partita....
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jaco ha scritto:Team of the week di PR:
Campagnaro uber alles e menzioni per Gori (definito spina nel fianco del gallesi) e Parisse (loro stravedono per il capitano)
http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,2588 ... 31,00.html

15 Rob Kearney (Ireland) - Played in his 50th Test and capped a memorable performance with his side's third try late on, which sealed their victory over Scotland. Kearney was safe under the high ball and impressed in attack with 79 metres gained. He just edges out Stuart Hogg, who was, as usual, one of the Scots' best players especially with ball in hand.
14 Yoann Huget (France) - Two tries and 74 metres gained by Huget in Paris showed his threat in attack. Though aided by the bounce of the ball, Huget finished both his opportunities well, and managed three clean breaks - more than any other player - as he proved the game's most incisive runner. On the opposing side, England's Jack Nowell endured a tough start to his Test debut, but should be commended for showing the resilience to bounce back, finishing with an impressive three defenders beaten.
13 Michele Campagnaro (Italy) - The only time 20-year-old Campagnaro looked ill at ease inside the Millennium Stadium was when confronted with a post-match BBC interview. His grasp of the English language may have been lacking a tad, but his performance was outstanding on just his third cap; bagging two excellent long-range tries - the first a kick-and-chase, the second an opportunistic interception of Leigh Halfpenny's pass - and finishing with a whopping 107 metres gained and two defenders beaten. No mean feat at the home of the defending champions; an arena where England failed to muster more than three points a year ago. His opposite number, in-form Scarlet Scott Williams, also enjoyed an impressive outing, crossing the whitewash in the process.
12 Jamie Roberts (Wales) - Roberts returned to Test rugby with a bang on Saturday, and was arguably his side's best player. Typically direct and powerful with ball in hand, he provided go-forward and a platform from which Wales could attack. Unsurprisingly, he was used rather a lot by Warren Gatland's men; a total of 17 carries yielding just shy of 50 metres. And his telling contribution came via a powerful midfield break to send Williams galloping home. In Paris, Wesley Fofana had a quiet game by his own standards, but still proved tricky to handle for the English defence, with 47 metres gained, and a clean break to his name. The Clermont flyer was solid without the ball too, making nine tackles and missing none.
11 Sean Lamont (Scotland) - Despite a poor overall performance from Scotland, Lamont can be happy after a fine effort. He combined well in attack with Hogg and crossed the advantage line at will, gaining 75 metres in the process. Lamont also put his body on the line in defence with nine hits.
10 Owen Farrell (England) - Farrell delivered his best performance in an England shirt to date. His kicking game was spot on, playing France back into the corners when England's pack got on top. He was also unafraid to attack the gain line, releasing England's big runners and making 47 metres himself and beating a couple of defenders in the process. This though was about maturity. We forget he is only 22. A mention for Rhys Priestland who shone against Italy.
9 Danny Care (England) - Care's selection over the more pragmatic Ben Youngs was a statement of intent from Stuart Lancaster. It was one that paid off, however, as Care proved to be the heartbeat of the English effort across the Channel. Typically lively and threatening in possession, Care's quick tap-penalty led to a try for Mike Brown, and the scrum-half even took the opportunity to slot a well-taken drop-goal. It was rather surprising to see Lancaster replace him while he looked to be at the peak of his powers. Elsewhere, Edoardo Gori was a thorn in the Welsh side.
8 Billy Vunipola (England) - If you outshine Louis Picamoles then you must be doing something right. Vunipola was absolutely brilliant for England in Paris, providing two assists for both of the visitors' tries. The second one was a brilliant run, beating three defenders before serving up Luther Burrell for a try on a plate. He is such a destructive runner. Vunipola finished with 68 metres from 17 carries. Mentions for Jamie Heaslip and Sergio Parisse.
7 Yannick Nyanga (France) - The marauding openside was simply outstanding; a key factor in France's eventual triumph, and a more than able replacement for his injured Toulouse team-mate, Thierry Dusautoir. A perennial nuisance at the breakdown, Nyanga hounded the English forwards, and made over 40 metres with ball in hand courtesy of several storming breaks downfield, beating more defenders (seven) than any other player in Round One. Ireland's Chris Henry had the beating of the Scottish pack around the breakdown, and showed up well in the loose to gain 15 metres.
6 Tom Wood (England) - A man on a mission, at least to rough up Jules Plisson early on, Wood's work was dogged on the blindside for England in the Paris battle. He made 11 tackles, caught lineouts and hit rucks with fire. England's back-row worked tirelessly and probably deserved more for their efforts, but as a unit they are starting to impress. Wood is a key part of that with his leadership as well. A mention for Dan Lydiate, who after a busy week jetting from Cardiff to Paris and back following the birth of his daughter made 12 tackles against Italy.
5 Pascal Papé (France) - France's captain might just be filling in for Dusautoir - his words, not ours - but he did a pretty good job. France surged and then retreated before coming back right at the death thanks to Gaël Fickou, with Papé on the field throughout. He even made more tackles than Nyanga, a monstrous 14, and was at his physically imposing best trying to handle Courtney Lawes. Lawes also gets a mention for a hugely impressive shift and one notable lineout steal.
4 Joe Launchbury (England) - Lawes might have not made the cut but Launchbury does. His workrate is simply outstanding and at 22 he embodies England's current ethos of picking young, talented players and watching them grow. Launchbury made ten tackles and took his lineout balls, but it was his effort busting from breakdown to breakdown that really caught the eye. He keeps out Devin Toner - the Irish giant putting his hand up by winning five lineouts and making ten tackles.
3 Nicolas Mas (France) - England might have won the lineout battle overall, but the scrum was all about France. It was no surprise to see Mas at the heart of it, hassling Joe Marler on his side with Papé in support while Thomas Domingo got to work on Dan Cole. The extra week's scrummaging practice seemed to pay off handsomely as France looked competitive in that area once more against one of the world's better packs. Eight tackles to boot underlined a strong performance.
2 Rory Best (Ireland) - Best got through a lot of the hard graft up front which allowed his more flashier team-mates to shine. He did his core duties well, especially at the line-outs, where he found his jumpers with ease. The Ulsterman also worked well in defence with six tackles, meaning he beats out Wales number two Richard Hibbard who impressed against Italy.
1 Cian Healy (Ireland) - The Leinster powerhouse showed again why he is so highly-rated with a superb all-round display. Scrummed well, cleaned out the rucks with determination and showed a fine turn of speed when he went on a bullocking run, in the second half, which caught Scotland's defenders by surprise. A mention for the destructive Thomas Domingo.
Tifo Inghilterra (dopo l'Italia, ovvio), ma mi sorprende di vedere ben 5 inglesi in una settimana in cui l'Inghilterra ha perso. Avrà perso solo di due punti, la meta di Fickou è stata un colpo di genio, ma l'Inghilterra ha perso, e ad altissimi livelli, tipo le sfide contro le squadre SANZAR, sono proprio i dettagli a fare la differenza Cinque inglesi -è la squadra più rappresentata, poi 4 francesi e 3 irlandesi- sono decisamente troppi. Così come mi sembra politica la presenza di Lamont, bisognava assolutamente mettere uno scozzese, evidentemente, ma non è che Lamont mi abbia impressionato. Team of the week su cui sono dunque decisamente in disaccordo.
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Cinque inglesi dei quali uno è Owen Farrell. Davvero è stata la sua migliore partita da quando è in nazionale? Intendiamoci, ha giocato bene senza dubbio, è vero che ha fatto una discesa da 47 metri, però nominano in alternativa solo Priestland.
...e Sexton niente? Ha fatto un'azione in cui ha seminato avversari come birilli, da lasciare a bocca aperta...
cosa c'è, è troppo vecchio?
"C'è solo una cosa al mondo meglio del rugby. Parlare di rugby"
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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/how-much-funding-welsh-rugby-12405682 A imperitura memoria
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finalmente ho visto la partita. passi in avanti rispetto a novembre, ma a parte le due belle mete non siamo mai entrati nei loro 5 metri. da rivedere il gioco al piede di gori e la disciplina (2 calci gratuiti concessi subito dopo le nostre marcature). non ho visto il Galles boccheggiare come l Inghilterra l anno scorso
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Penso che sui 2 calci dopo le segnature sicuramente c'è stata qualche infrazione però i gallesi hanno sporcato le ruck per tutta la partita e sono stati puniti solo una o due volte
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