Qualcosa si muove...

[Hap]

Ma magari ci dicessero come si fa.
Non mi pare che 50 anni di birra e salamelle ci hanno portato sul tetto del mondo, eh.

no, ma siamo imbattibili a "birra e salsiccia" (Cit.)

Ohy Tallonatore! Bello rileggerti, indove eri finito?

Nuovo lavoro lontano da casa e figlio in arrivo.
Sono un filo impegnato e
Fatico a restarencostante.

Vi leggo ma non scrivo

Ci mancherebbe.
Per adesso ci basta così

[danci]

Può essere interessante fare qualche paragone con la realtà scozzese, simile alla nostra per numeri e dimensioni (ma non per mercato potenziale). I progressi delle loro squadre di Pro14 e della nazionale negli ultimi tempi sono sotto gli occhi di tutti ma SRU ha un programma di sviluppo che, nell’alto livello, si muove lungo due direzioni: i) investimento in una squadra di Premiership, vista l’impossibilità di avere una terza franchigia di Pro14 ii) creazione di una Lega domestica di Elite con 6 squadre quasi-professionistiche. Stralci da un’intervista al CEO Mark Dodson:

“It's our desire to get involved in the English Premiership. It's a league of great importance and it's a way that we can, perhaps, gain access to a third [professional] team, because it's probably impossible in Scotland, given the economic climate, to have a third franchise … It's too early to say what a Newcastle deal would look like. We're just having conversations with several people, but we would like to work with them in a partnership. It would give some of our players the opportunity to taste what it's like in the Premiership.”

On criticism of the new Super 6 club competition due to start in season 2019-20. (The franchise winners will be announced on 1 May):
"If you listen to the people who bleat the loudest, they are the people who least understand it and who don't want anything to change … There's a group of people in every union, and ours is no different, who keep pointing back to the glory days. Well, I've tried to find these glory days over the last 30 years and I'm struggling. I can't find this period when everything was wonderful inside Scottish rugby. We have been mandated to reform club rugby. The clubs have mandated us to do it and Super 6 is the solution. This is part-time professional rugby, not semi-professional. Everybody who plays in that league will have another job. … I've had about 40 meetings with clubs and there is an understanding now around this. We've had 13 letters of intent. That's 13 clubs, or an amalgamation of clubs, that are interested in delivering on this. … The Super 6 will look nothing like the Premiership as it currently does. It'll be dressed differently, it'll be promoted differently. It will be part of our high performance department, so it will be looked after by our professional rugby people”

Intervista integrale su http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/43473255

[speartakle]

Può essere interessante fare qualche paragone con la realtà scozzese, simile alla nostra per numeri e dimensioni (ma non per mercato potenziale). I progressi delle loro squadre di Pro14 e della nazionale negli ultimi tempi sono sotto gli occhi di tutti ma SRU ha un programma di sviluppo che, nell’alto livello, si muove lungo due direzioni: i) investimento in una squadra di Premiership, vista l’impossibilità di avere una terza franchigia di Pro14 ii) creazione di una Lega domestica di Elite con 6 squadre quasi-professionistiche. Stralci da un’intervista al CEO Mark Dodson:

“On criticism of the new Super 6 club competition due to start in season 2019-20. (The franchise winners will be announced on 1 May):
If you listen to the people who bleat the loudest, they are the people who least understand it and who don't want anything to change … There's a group of people in every union, and ours is no different, who keep pointing back to the glory days. Well, I've tried to find these glory days over the last 30 years and I'm struggling. I can't find this period when everything was wonderful inside Scottish rugby. We have been mandated to reform club rugby. The clubs have mandated us to do it and Super 6 is the solution. This is part-time professional rugby, not semi-professional. Everybody who plays in that league will have another job. … I've had about 40 meetings with clubs and there is an understanding now around this. We've had 13 letters of intent. That's 13 clubs, or an amalgamation of clubs, that are interested in delivering on this. … The Super 6 will look nothing like the Premiership as it currently does. It'll be dressed differently, it'll be promoted differently. It will be part of our high performance department, so it will be looked after by our professional rugby people”

Intervista integrale su http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/43473255

tutto il mondo è paese.

[jaco]

Non so se sia il posto giusto... semmai chi di dovere sposterà.
Onrugby riprende un articolo de Il Gazzettino che ho letto proprio stamattina... a me sembra una buona idea e, insomma... qualcosa si muove!

https://www.onrugby.it/2018/03/28/dal-v ... uilibrate/

[speartakle]

Non so se sia il posto giusto... semmai chi di dovere sposterà.
Onrugby riprende un articolo de Il Gazzettino che ho letto proprio stamattina... a me sembra una buona idea e, insomma... qualcosa si muove!

https://www.onrugby.it/2018/03/28/dal-v ... uilibrate/

non mi trova molto d'accordo per under 12 e 14, dove hai già una certa identità e struttura di squadra e quindi mettere assieme giocatori che sono allenati in una certa maniera e a cui hanno dato certi obiettivi è difficile che si integreino con altri, che magari giocano proprio con altri obiettivi.
L'ottimo sarebbe cercare di affrontare squadre più o meno su pari livello per tenere sempre alta la competizione.
Certo non sempre è possibile, e allora iniziative come questa potrebbero essere anche positive, però usate solo in casi limite.

[Luqa-bis]

nei fatti , se nel I tempo si assiste ad un massacro, il secondo tempo diventa un allenamento condiviso un po' più energico.

Non risolve i problemi ma può aiutare a creare un atteggiamento positivo di collaborazione.

Solo che se permettete i migliori di chi vince passano con chi perde si associa con "chi di quelli che perdono passa con hi vince".

e il rischio è che ad una sconfitta collettiva si possano associare N sensi di colpa individuali:
chi viene spostato dai perdenti ai vincenti è lo scarso che ha fatto da zavorra,
chi resta tra i vincenti è il carro merci a carico del talentuoso.

meglio una selezione casuale tra le due formazioni: ci si scambia i numeri pari o i numeri dispari.

[Garryowen]

E' una di quelle cose studiate a tavolino, che sembrano funzionare finché non passi a considerare che si tratta di ragazzi o bambini, e non di automi o pedine da spostare a piacimento

[speartakle]

intanto anche in Galles vogliono riformare la propria struttura e il proprio domestic:

Having canvassed views from key stakeholders including coaches, players, regions, media and clubs throughout the country, the WRU will introduce Regional U23 teams into Welsh rugby in 2018/19.

Alongside this new development a revamped Premiership will be reduced to 12 (from 16) teams from 2019/2020, and will include promotion and relegation from that time.

The review process has seen the opinions of all interested parties being sought and considered and the recommendations were ratified by the WRU Board last week.

The aim is to create the best possible competition structure in Wales to support player, coach, and referee development from club, to regional rugby to international team and create a vibrant Premiership league which suits the needs of the clubs who play in it.

A further intention of the new structure is to produce Welsh internationals and PRO14/EPCR players and further enhance the chances of success at the 2023 and 2027 Rugby World Cups.

"Our current system is a compromise which doesn't serve the professional game, our players or our clubs in the best way possible and we have universal agreement on that," said WRU chief executive Martyn Phillips.

"We currently ask the Premiership to play a vital role in the pathway of our professional and international players, but also expect a vibrant and competitive league competition with clubs who are at the heart of their local communities representing all the history that goes with Welsh club game.

"The evidence is that it is not possible to do both in one competition, so the solution is to separate the two and create a professional regional U23 competition that services all the requirements of a successful player pathway to run alongside a club competition where the clubs can do what they do best.

"The club game will benefit from a league structure that works, with the jeopardy of relegation and promotion and continued support, not just financial, but also in terms coach development, medical support and facilities provision.

"Our Premiership clubs can focus on being the best club in Wales without the burden of demand we place upon them in terms of player pathway and the regional U23 competition will answer many of the current problems providing the right environment to develop our elite players."

The regional U23 competition will be staged in set blocks - the first will be in Sept/Oct with an end of season block held in April.

In between there will be a 'development' block in December as Wales U20 prepare for the Six Nations while simultaneously players will be identified for the National Succession Plan as agreed by WRU and the Regions.

During these blocks, detailed plans will be proposed for each player which could see them placed in a region, moved to Wales Sevens or based with a Premiership club or even given an overseas placement - all dependent on player plans and requirements.

The approach will be player-focussed with individualised programmes designed by the Regions with dedicated support services (ie: S&C, physio, nutrition etc)

A stream-lined Premiership will be trimmed from 16 to 12 clubs from the start of the 2019-20 campaign, with
promotion/relegation from the Championship being re-introduced and the prospect of a play-off between the top Championship side and 12th placed Premiership to decide promotion in the first year being mooted.

"The primary focus is to ensure every game counts to find the best club in Wales in what will be a vibrant, tribal competition with funding being made available to enable progress on and off the field," added the WRU head of performance Geraint John.

"The club season will provide uninterrupted league fixtures and a national Cup competition and could also involve a cross-border competition at the end of the campaign, with discussions ongoing.

"With hard fought promotion and relegation battles, any gap in playing standards between the Premiership and Championship will close significantly.

"We will employ dedicated resource to support coaching and commercial programmes at both club and Regional U23 level, while relationships between the regions and clubs will be actively encouraged with collaboration for mutual benefit.

"There are a number of further benefits with the new structure. There will be regular home and away fixtures for clubs with an enhanced game schedule improving player welfare."

qui il sunto che ne ha fatto OnRugby: https://www.onrugby.it/2018/03/28/galle ... e-matters/

[jaco]

Mazzantini chiarisce le sperimentazioni che si vogliono portare avanti in veneto...
https://www.rugbymeet.com/it/news/giova ... -giovanile

Ribadisco, per me aspetti positivi nolto maggiori di quelli negativi...

[Ilgorgo]

https://i.redd.it/yseigmog2sp01.png

World Rugby ha pubblicato il consueto report di fine anno (2017) con la rendicontazione (spero si dica così) dei giocatori per ogni federazione.
I numeri appaiono come sempre un po' dubbi.
L'Italia sarebbe passata in un anno da 87.000 giocatori registrati (2016) a 82.000 (2017), cosa che costituirebbe un crollo molto preoccupante.
Il numero totale di giocatori italiani, compresi quelli non registrati, sarebbe però passato da 88.000 a 95.000.
Tutto sommato penso che non si possa dare quasi alcun credito a queste cifre, finché non daranno l'impressione di essere più realistiche

[JosephK.]

Registrati = tesserati?

[Ilgorgo]

Sì, credo che tesserati sia la dizione corretta; ho tradotto brutalmente "registered" con "registrati". Immagino appunto che con registered intentando tesserati. E la Cina ne avrebbe più della Scozia...

[giuseppone64]

In Cina si sta provando a lanciarlo come sport. Non so...

[jaco]

In Cina si sta provando a lanciarlo come sport. Non so...

...in Cina quando lanciano qualcosa devono poi stare attenti a dove ricade...




Ok non lo dico più...

[jpr williams]

In Cina si sta provando a lanciarlo come sport. Non so...

...in Cina quando lanciano qualcosa devono poi stare attenti a dove ricade...


Ok non lo dico più...