6N best XV
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Planet Rugby ha selezionato il suo miglior XV per il 6N (<!-- BBCode Start --><A HREF="http://www.planet-rugby.com/News/story_49797.shtml" TARGET="_blank">qui</A><!-- BBCode End -->), io avrei messo:
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<BR>15. Castagneide
<BR>14. Horgan
<BR>13. Fritz
<BR>12. Bergamasco Mi.
<BR>11. Rougerie
<BR>10. S. Jones
<BR>9. Yachvili
<BR>8. Leamy
<BR>7. Nyanga
<BR>6. White
<BR>5. O'Connell
<BR>4. Bortolami
<BR>3. De Villiers
<BR>2. Flannery
<BR>1. Perugini
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<BR>15. Castagneide
<BR>14. Horgan
<BR>13. Fritz
<BR>12. Bergamasco Mi.
<BR>11. Rougerie
<BR>10. S. Jones
<BR>9. Yachvili
<BR>8. Leamy
<BR>7. Nyanga
<BR>6. White
<BR>5. O'Connell
<BR>4. Bortolami
<BR>3. De Villiers
<BR>2. Flannery
<BR>1. Perugini
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<BR>15: GEORDAN MURPHY (Ireland)
<BR>Capped off a solid tournament - one intercepted pass aside - with a superb performance in the final game against England, looking a threat with the ball in hand every time. Just edged out Thomas Castaignède on the basis of work-rate in the counter-attacking department.
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<BR>14: SHANE HORGAN (Ireland)
<BR>A very real candidate for player of the tournament. Horgan ended up as the spearhead of Ireland's attack, popping up in midfield and back on his wing with immaculate timing and often to destructive effect. A perfect coup de grâce with the last-minute winner against England. Eclipsed Aurélien Rougerie more on work-rate than anything else. Is there a finer finisher in world rugby? We think not.
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<BR>13: BRIAN O'DRISCOLL (Ireland, captain)
<BR>Not spectacular by any means, but the solidity and balance that BOD brought to his backline was frequently what allowed those outside him to flourish. In that sense, he outdid Florian Fritz, whose flair eclipsed the O'Driscoll's, but BOD's was the more solid game. The Leinster star is almost back to where he was prior to his shoulder injury and captains our team.
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<BR>12: MIRCO BERGAMASCO (Italy)
<BR>The 'find' of the tournament. The only inside-centre who managed to mix flair with strong running and solid defence with the perfect balance. A wonderful and consistent display from the Stade Français player.
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<BR>11: SEAN LAMONT (Scotland)
<BR>The tournament yielded not one left-wing whose displays made him truly worthy of filling this spot - indeed, we briefly considered plonking Aurelien Rougerie in this position. But strong Sean Lamont was the most solid all the way through, just ahead of Shane Williams and Christophe Dominici.
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<BR>10: STEPHEN JONES (Wales)
<BR>The brightest light in the gloomy fog of lies and conspiracies that engulfed the Welsh team during the tournament, it was a pivotal point in the match when he was taken off injured against the Irish. From winning 5-0, Wales slumped to a 31-5 defeat. His continual variations in play kept opponents guessing all the way through.
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<BR>9: DWAYNE PEEL (Wales)
<BR>A cracking try against England and three excellent matches at the base of an ordinary pack before the injury against Italy mean that B&I Lions star gets the nod over close runners-up Mike Blair, Peter Stringer, and Dimitri Yachvili.
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<BR>8: MARTIN CORRY (England)
<BR>Has his detractors, but Corry's strength in extreme adversity shone through time and time again. He was at the very centre of the few good English attacks and handled the unwarranted media/Dallaglio sniping in exemplary fashion. He also boasts more heart than a Hallmark shop in early February.
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<BR>7: DAVID WALLACE (Ireland)
<BR>Has burst back into the Ireland team and his performance against England was the icing on the cake. Like a wall in defence, and in attack, his 40m burst through the English defence took him clear - repeat, clear - of both centres. What's more, much of Ireland's turnover ball stemmed from his handiwork. It was his attack that set him apart from Scotland's Allister Hogg.
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<BR>6: JASON WHITE (Scotland)
<BR>Must have had the highest tackle-count in the tournament, and if he didn't, his was the least number of yards conceded in tackles. So many times White popped up in the right place to knock his opponent backwards. The captain's performance against England was his finest hour in a dark blue shirt.
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<BR>5: PAUL O'CONNELL (Ireland)
<BR>Europe's best lock by some distance. Ruined the Scots and Welsh at the line-out, and won everything in the third quarter against England. That was on the opposition's throw! Ireland never had to worry at line-out time, which was a cornerstone of their Triple Crown triumph.
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<BR>4: MARCO BORTOLAMI (Italy)
<BR>A shining and disciplined captain's performance all the way through the tournament, keeping Italy solid on their own throw and playing like an extra flank in the loose.
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<BR>3: PIETER DE VILLIERS (France)
<BR>The aged muscle at the corner of the French pack was rarely to be seen outside of it, but he negated every pile-driver that came his way. Just out-muscled Carlos Nieto from the position.
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<BR>2: RAPHAËL IBAÑEZ (France)
<BR>Immaculate with most of the throwing, and like a sprightly faun in the loose. Ibañez rolled back the years in every game of this tournament, and is very much in pole position for the 2007 Rugby World Cup, never mind that he will be 33 by the time it comes round.
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<BR>1: DUNCAN JONES (Wales)
<BR>The Welshman continues to develop in leaps and bounds, and is a real threat in the loose, where his pace appears to increase every time he plays. In the final game against France, he was the one making the difference to the Welsh scrum much of the time, but he could not go all 80 minutes.
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<BR>15: GEORDAN MURPHY (Ireland)
<BR>Capped off a solid tournament - one intercepted pass aside - with a superb performance in the final game against England, looking a threat with the ball in hand every time. Just edged out Thomas Castaignède on the basis of work-rate in the counter-attacking department.
<BR>
<BR>14: SHANE HORGAN (Ireland)
<BR>A very real candidate for player of the tournament. Horgan ended up as the spearhead of Ireland's attack, popping up in midfield and back on his wing with immaculate timing and often to destructive effect. A perfect coup de grâce with the last-minute winner against England. Eclipsed Aurélien Rougerie more on work-rate than anything else. Is there a finer finisher in world rugby? We think not.
<BR>
<BR>13: BRIAN O'DRISCOLL (Ireland, captain)
<BR>Not spectacular by any means, but the solidity and balance that BOD brought to his backline was frequently what allowed those outside him to flourish. In that sense, he outdid Florian Fritz, whose flair eclipsed the O'Driscoll's, but BOD's was the more solid game. The Leinster star is almost back to where he was prior to his shoulder injury and captains our team.
<BR>
<BR>12: MIRCO BERGAMASCO (Italy)
<BR>The 'find' of the tournament. The only inside-centre who managed to mix flair with strong running and solid defence with the perfect balance. A wonderful and consistent display from the Stade Français player.
<BR>
<BR>11: SEAN LAMONT (Scotland)
<BR>The tournament yielded not one left-wing whose displays made him truly worthy of filling this spot - indeed, we briefly considered plonking Aurelien Rougerie in this position. But strong Sean Lamont was the most solid all the way through, just ahead of Shane Williams and Christophe Dominici.
<BR>
<BR>10: STEPHEN JONES (Wales)
<BR>The brightest light in the gloomy fog of lies and conspiracies that engulfed the Welsh team during the tournament, it was a pivotal point in the match when he was taken off injured against the Irish. From winning 5-0, Wales slumped to a 31-5 defeat. His continual variations in play kept opponents guessing all the way through.
<BR>
<BR>9: DWAYNE PEEL (Wales)
<BR>A cracking try against England and three excellent matches at the base of an ordinary pack before the injury against Italy mean that B&I Lions star gets the nod over close runners-up Mike Blair, Peter Stringer, and Dimitri Yachvili.
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<BR>8: MARTIN CORRY (England)
<BR>Has his detractors, but Corry's strength in extreme adversity shone through time and time again. He was at the very centre of the few good English attacks and handled the unwarranted media/Dallaglio sniping in exemplary fashion. He also boasts more heart than a Hallmark shop in early February.
<BR>
<BR>7: DAVID WALLACE (Ireland)
<BR>Has burst back into the Ireland team and his performance against England was the icing on the cake. Like a wall in defence, and in attack, his 40m burst through the English defence took him clear - repeat, clear - of both centres. What's more, much of Ireland's turnover ball stemmed from his handiwork. It was his attack that set him apart from Scotland's Allister Hogg.
<BR>
<BR>6: JASON WHITE (Scotland)
<BR>Must have had the highest tackle-count in the tournament, and if he didn't, his was the least number of yards conceded in tackles. So many times White popped up in the right place to knock his opponent backwards. The captain's performance against England was his finest hour in a dark blue shirt.
<BR>
<BR>5: PAUL O'CONNELL (Ireland)
<BR>Europe's best lock by some distance. Ruined the Scots and Welsh at the line-out, and won everything in the third quarter against England. That was on the opposition's throw! Ireland never had to worry at line-out time, which was a cornerstone of their Triple Crown triumph.
<BR>
<BR>4: MARCO BORTOLAMI (Italy)
<BR>A shining and disciplined captain's performance all the way through the tournament, keeping Italy solid on their own throw and playing like an extra flank in the loose.
<BR>
<BR>3: PIETER DE VILLIERS (France)
<BR>The aged muscle at the corner of the French pack was rarely to be seen outside of it, but he negated every pile-driver that came his way. Just out-muscled Carlos Nieto from the position.
<BR>
<BR>2: RAPHAËL IBAÑEZ (France)
<BR>Immaculate with most of the throwing, and like a sprightly faun in the loose. Ibañez rolled back the years in every game of this tournament, and is very much in pole position for the 2007 Rugby World Cup, never mind that he will be 33 by the time it comes round.
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<BR>1: DUNCAN JONES (Wales)
<BR>The Welshman continues to develop in leaps and bounds, and is a real threat in the loose, where his pace appears to increase every time he plays. In the final game against France, he was the one making the difference to the Welsh scrum much of the time, but he could not go all 80 minutes.
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<BR> 20-03-2006 alle ore 15:40, ItalianRugbyFriends wrote:
<BR>Certo colpisce... neanche un inglese... la rosa britannica è appassita ormai...
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<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End -->veramente hanno messo Corry, ma sembra più che altro un atto di pietà verso bianchi: al n. 8 meglio di lui, oltre a Leamy, anche Lieveremont, Parisse e Taylor
<BR> 20-03-2006 alle ore 15:40, ItalianRugbyFriends wrote:
<BR>Certo colpisce... neanche un inglese... la rosa britannica è appassita ormai...
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<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End -->veramente hanno messo Corry, ma sembra più che altro un atto di pietà verso bianchi: al n. 8 meglio di lui, oltre a Leamy, anche Lieveremont, Parisse e Taylor
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E' chiaro che non è mai facile fare una formazione così.
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<BR>Soprattutto perchè prevale anche una forma di geopolitica, tipo il doverne mettere un tot di una squadra a seconda del rendimento (e spesso neanche del rendimento vero quanto del delta tra il rendimento reale e le aspettative della vigilia).
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<BR>Premesso quanto sopra, a livello personale avrei preferito Flannery a Ibanez, Paterson a qualsiasi altra ala (non è che perchè gioca in un ruolo ibrido non lo si sa come premiare ???) e non ho visto nessun pilone che abbia giocato meglio di Perugini.
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<BR>Soprattutto perchè prevale anche una forma di geopolitica, tipo il doverne mettere un tot di una squadra a seconda del rendimento (e spesso neanche del rendimento vero quanto del delta tra il rendimento reale e le aspettative della vigilia).
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<BR>Premesso quanto sopra, a livello personale avrei preferito Flannery a Ibanez, Paterson a qualsiasi altra ala (non è che perchè gioca in un ruolo ibrido non lo si sa come premiare ???) e non ho visto nessun pilone che abbia giocato meglio di Perugini.
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<BR>brian o driscoll non se lo merita
<BR>perugini si meritava di essere dentro
<BR>un'ala francese (dominici o rougerie) merita di essere dentro
<BR>sono molto contento per la citazione in panca per ongaro
<BR>a estremo avrei messo castagneide
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<BR>rimango dubbioso per la scelta del numero 9
<BR>forse, alla fine , peel è quello che merita di più, pur non avendo fatto vedere sfaceli. certo, io avrei messo griffen con dawson in panca, ma io sono di parte.
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<BR>perugini si meritava di essere dentro
<BR>un'ala francese (dominici o rougerie) merita di essere dentro
<BR>sono molto contento per la citazione in panca per ongaro
<BR>a estremo avrei messo castagneide
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<BR>rimango dubbioso per la scelta del numero 9
<BR>forse, alla fine , peel è quello che merita di più, pur non avendo fatto vedere sfaceli. certo, io avrei messo griffen con dawson in panca, ma io sono di parte.
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<BR> 20-03-2006 alle ore 17:13, KAIL wrote:
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<BR>rimango dubbioso per la scelta del numero 9
<BR>forse, alla fine , peel è quello che merita di più, pur non avendo fatto vedere sfaceli. certo, io avrei messo griffen con dawson in panca, ma io sono di parte.
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<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End -->io al n. 9 non avrei messo nessuno, ma poi alla fine il meno peggio secondo me è stato Yachvili...
<BR> 20-03-2006 alle ore 17:13, KAIL wrote:
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<BR>rimango dubbioso per la scelta del numero 9
<BR>forse, alla fine , peel è quello che merita di più, pur non avendo fatto vedere sfaceli. certo, io avrei messo griffen con dawson in panca, ma io sono di parte.
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<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End -->io al n. 9 non avrei messo nessuno, ma poi alla fine il meno peggio secondo me è stato Yachvili...
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A me è piaciuto parecchio il mediano del Galles quello che ha giocato tutta la partita con la Francia: Oddio non mi ricordo il nome: Phillips? Un mediano di mischia coi fiocchi...anche se con noi non aveva giocato un granchè..
<BR>Menzione anche per il tallonatore dell'Irlanda Flannery che dopo la partita con l'Italia qualcuno aveva definito "impresentabile"...a me pare che sia cresciuto partita dopo partita e non sia niente niente male..
<BR>Menzione anche per il tallonatore dell'Irlanda Flannery che dopo la partita con l'Italia qualcuno aveva definito "impresentabile"...a me pare che sia cresciuto partita dopo partita e non sia niente niente male..
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<BR> 20-03-2006 alle ore 17:13, KAIL wrote:
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<BR>rimango dubbioso per la scelta del numero 9
<BR>forse, alla fine , peel è quello che merita di più, pur non avendo fatto vedere sfaceli. certo, io avrei messo griffen con dawson in panca, ma io sono di parte.
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<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End -->io al n. 9 non avrei messo nessuno, ma poi alla fine il meno peggio secondo me è stato Yachvili...
<BR> 20-03-2006 alle ore 17:13, KAIL wrote:
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<BR>rimango dubbioso per la scelta del numero 9
<BR>forse, alla fine , peel è quello che merita di più, pur non avendo fatto vedere sfaceli. certo, io avrei messo griffen con dawson in panca, ma io sono di parte.
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<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End -->io al n. 9 non avrei messo nessuno, ma poi alla fine il meno peggio secondo me è stato Yachvili...
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<BR> 20-03-2006 alle ore 17:48, lopezmartinez wrote:
<BR>A me è piaciuto parecchio il mediano del Galles quello che ha giocato tutta la partita con la Francia: Oddio non mi ricordo il nome: Phillips? Un mediano di mischia coi fiocchi...anche se con noi non aveva giocato un granchè..
<BR>Menzione anche per il tallonatore dell'Irlanda Flannery che dopo la partita con l'Italia qualcuno aveva definito "impresentabile"...a me pare che sia cresciuto partita dopo partita e non sia niente niente male..
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End -->Phillips, si, ha fatto una partita straordinaria, penso la migliore della sua carriera, di solito gioca mooooolto sotto quello standard...
<BR> 20-03-2006 alle ore 17:48, lopezmartinez wrote:
<BR>A me è piaciuto parecchio il mediano del Galles quello che ha giocato tutta la partita con la Francia: Oddio non mi ricordo il nome: Phillips? Un mediano di mischia coi fiocchi...anche se con noi non aveva giocato un granchè..
<BR>Menzione anche per il tallonatore dell'Irlanda Flannery che dopo la partita con l'Italia qualcuno aveva definito "impresentabile"...a me pare che sia cresciuto partita dopo partita e non sia niente niente male..
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE><!-- BBCode Quote End -->Phillips, si, ha fatto una partita straordinaria, penso la migliore della sua carriera, di solito gioca mooooolto sotto quello standard...